Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg files as
they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an interpretation
method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
23  25428 
their in binary format not text format, to read binary format you need to
know the data structure of the file.
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg files
as they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an interpretation
method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
It is from outlook, so whatever that binary format is.
Hope this helps.
Graham
"Brian Henry" <br******@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:ey****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... their in binary format not text format, to read binary format you need to
know the data structure of the file.
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg
files as they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
Graham,
The .msg format is not documented.
The "easiest" way to read it would be to have the App that defines the
format read it, in this case Outlook.
The following site provides a plethora of information on using Outlook from
..NET. http://www.microeye.com/resources/res_outlookvsnet.htm
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg files
as they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an interpretation
method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
You've never worked with binary/random access file have you?
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:eC****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... It is from outlook, so whatever that binary format is.
Hope this helps.
Graham
"Brian Henry" <br******@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:ey****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... their in binary format not text format, to read binary format you need
to know the data structure of the file.
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg
files as they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
I don't know if its on here... but a link for understanding (and the
formats) of many popular binary file types. http://www.wotsit.org/search.asp?s=ALLFILES
CJ
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:eC****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... It is from outlook, so whatever that binary format is.
Hope this helps.
Graham
"Brian Henry" <br******@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:ey****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... their in binary format not text format, to read binary format you need
to know the data structure of the file.
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg
files as they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
Jay,
Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I know that it can be done in VB6.
Cheers
Graham
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja************@msn.com> wrote in message
news:uW**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Graham,
The .msg format is not documented.
The "easiest" way to read it would be to have the App that defines the
format read it, in this case Outlook.
The following site provides a plethora of information on using Outlook
from .NET.
http://www.microeye.com/resources/res_outlookvsnet.htm
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg
files as they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
CJ,
You are dead right, I have never worked with binary.
I still consider myself as a newbie, text files are no problem, binary.....
not a chance!!
The site that you showed me has not got the msg format.
Any further help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Graham
"CJ Taylor" <no****@blowgoats.com> wrote in message
news:10*************@corp.supernews.com... I don't know if its on here... but a link for understanding (and the
formats) of many popular binary file types.
http://www.wotsit.org/search.asp?s=ALLFILES
CJ
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:eC****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... It is from outlook, so whatever that binary format is.
Hope this helps.
Graham
"Brian Henry" <br******@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:ey****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... their in binary format not text format, to read binary format you need to know the data structure of the file.
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg
files as
> they seem to be in a proprietry format.
>
> Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation > method?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
> Graham F French mcse
>
>
Hmm, sorry, didn't look through it enough... Sorry about that.. still
searching for a source of it.. but personally, I would use the Outlook
interop.
-CJ
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:OZ****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... CJ,
You are dead right, I have never worked with binary.
I still consider myself as a newbie, text files are no problem,
binary..... not a chance!!
The site that you showed me has not got the msg format.
Any further help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Graham
"CJ Taylor" <no****@blowgoats.com> wrote in message
news:10*************@corp.supernews.com... I don't know if its on here... but a link for understanding (and the
formats) of many popular binary file types.
http://www.wotsit.org/search.asp?s=ALLFILES
CJ
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:eC****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... It is from outlook, so whatever that binary format is.
Hope this helps.
Graham
"Brian Henry" <br******@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:ey****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> their in binary format not text format, to read binary format you
need to > know the data structure of the file.
>
>
> "Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in
msg files
> as
> > they seem to be in a proprietry format.
> >
> > Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation
> > method?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > Graham F French mcse
> >
> >
>
>
The problem is the client. Outlook will not be installed.
The msg files are saved to a shared server drive and my application needs to
read in the msg files.
Cheers
Graham
"CJ Taylor" <no****@blowgoats.com> wrote in message
news:10*************@corp.supernews.com... Hmm, sorry, didn't look through it enough... Sorry about that.. still
searching for a source of it.. but personally, I would use the Outlook
interop.
-CJ
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:OZ****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... CJ,
You are dead right, I have never worked with binary.
I still consider myself as a newbie, text files are no problem,
binary..... not a chance!!
The site that you showed me has not got the msg format.
Any further help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Graham
"CJ Taylor" <no****@blowgoats.com> wrote in message
news:10*************@corp.supernews.com... I don't know if its on here... but a link for understanding (and the
formats) of many popular binary file types.
http://www.wotsit.org/search.asp?s=ALLFILES
CJ
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:eC****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> It is from outlook, so whatever that binary format is.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Graham
>
>
> "Brian Henry" <br******@adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:ey****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > their in binary format not text format, to read binary format you need to
> > know the data structure of the file.
> >
> >
> > "Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg > files
> > as
> > > they seem to be in a proprietry format.
> > >
> > > Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
> interpretation
> > > method?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Graham
> > >
> > > Graham F French mcse
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Not to be a noot, but I think you're on the wrong track. .msg files ARE
NOT MS Outlook files, but e-mail messages that are used by a thousand or so
clients. There is both an ISO and RFC spec on this. Check out .msg email
file layouts, that may lead to some clues, and remember, MS doesn't have the
market on everything, even though they'd like to :)
HTH
Sueffel
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system ( http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 2/6/2004
And actually, I posted before I thought bout it more, email messages are
required to be plain-text unless they are encrypted. If they are encrypted
by Outlook for whatever reason, you're pretty hosed. Ofcourse, not 100%
sure what Outlook may be doing to this file, but it sure is really fubared,
and needs to be avoided LOL
It looks to be a non-stander, IE fubared, db type of format, let me see
what I can dig up for ya...
Sueffel
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system ( http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 2/6/2004
Binary files are a defined data structure. you have to know how to read in
the structures in teh correct data type to be able to convery from binary to
something you can use, I'd suggest reading up on binary format files first
then search for a binary file format document on outlook second..
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:uD*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Jay,
Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I know that it can be done in VB6.
Cheers
Graham
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja************@msn.com> wrote in message
news:uW**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Graham,
The .msg format is not documented.
The "easiest" way to read it would be to have the App that defines the
format read it, in this case Outlook.
The following site provides a plethora of information on using Outlook
from .NET.
http://www.microeye.com/resources/res_outlookvsnet.htm
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg files as they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
Yeah, I can't find a thing on the data structure of a msg file anywhere...
good luck,
CJ
"Brian Henry" <br******@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:uf**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Binary files are a defined data structure. you have to know how to read in
the structures in teh correct data type to be able to convery from binary
to something you can use, I'd suggest reading up on binary format files first
then search for a binary file format document on outlook second..
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:uD*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Jay,
Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I know that it can be done in VB6.
Cheers
Graham
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja************@msn.com> wrote in
message news:uW**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Graham,
The .msg format is not documented.
The "easiest" way to read it would be to have the App that defines the
format read it, in this case Outlook.
The following site provides a plethora of information on using Outlook
from .NET.
http://www.microeye.com/resources/res_outlookvsnet.htm
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg
files as
> they seem to be in a proprietry format.
>
> Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation > method?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
> Graham F French mcse
>
>
"Sueffel" <so*****@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:uR****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... And actually, I posted before I thought bout it more, email messages
are required to be plain-text unless they are encrypted. If they are
encrypted by Outlook for whatever reason, you're pretty hosed. Ofcourse, not 100%
sure what Outlook may be doing to this file, but it sure is really
fubared, and needs to be avoided LOL
It looks to be a non-stander, IE fubared, db type of format, let me
see what I can dig up for ya...
Sueffel
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 2/6/2004
Well damn,MS strikes again with propritary format! I've seen .msg files
many time on linux email servers, but it seems that this is something MS has
tried to say, "Hey, this is ours and there's nothing you can do about it".
That sucks, I will look somemore thoguh unless those links jay giave are the
answer.
Sueffel
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system ( http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 2/6/2004
Hi,
I have yet to find some info on this, anything you can get would be
appreciated!
Thanks
Graham
"Sueffel" <so*****@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
"Sueffel" <so*****@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:uR****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... And actually, I posted before I thought bout it more, email messages are required to be plain-text unless they are encrypted. If they are
encrypted by Outlook for whatever reason, you're pretty hosed. Ofcourse, not 100%
sure what Outlook may be doing to this file, but it sure is really
fubared, and needs to be avoided LOL
It looks to be a non-stander, IE fubared, db type of format, let me
see what I can dig up for ya...
Sueffel
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 2/6/2004
Well damn,MS strikes again with propritary format! I've seen .msg files
many time on linux email servers, but it seems that this is something MS
has tried to say, "Hey, this is ours and there's nothing you can do about it".
That sucks, I will look somemore thoguh unless those links jay giave are
the answer.
Sueffel
---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 2/6/2004
Graham, Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I'm Sorry, which part of "not documented" do you not understand? :-|
I know that it can be done in VB6.
If you know how to do it in VB6, then you *should* know how to do it in
VB.NET.
Can you post the VB6 code you are using? The code should largely translate
into VB.NET, nothing else, create a simple VB6 project that uses the code,
then use the Upgrade Wizard in VB.NET to open the project.
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:uD*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Jay,
Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I know that it can be done in VB6.
Cheers
Graham
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja************@msn.com> wrote in message
news:uW**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Graham,
The .msg format is not documented.
The "easiest" way to read it would be to have the App that defines the
format read it, in this case Outlook.
The following site provides a plethora of information on using Outlook
from .NET.
http://www.microeye.com/resources/res_outlookvsnet.htm
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hello,
I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg files as they seem to be in a proprietry format.
Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation method?
Thanks
Graham
Graham F French mcse
Hi Jay,
I don't know vb6 at all. It sounds strange, but I stared off with vbscript!
Then I moved to asp.net.
I could post the vb6 code that reads the file in, as it doesn't make much
sense to me.
Regards
Graham
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja************@msn.com> wrote in message
news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Graham, Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I'm Sorry, which part of "not documented" do you not understand? :-|
I know that it can be done in VB6.
If you know how to do it in VB6, then you *should* know how to do it in
VB.NET.
Can you post the VB6 code you are using? The code should largely translate
into VB.NET, nothing else, create a simple VB6 project that uses the code,
then use the Upgrade Wizard in VB.NET to open the project.
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:uD*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Jay,
Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I know that it can be done in VB6.
Cheers
Graham
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja************@msn.com> wrote in
message news:uW**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Graham,
The .msg format is not documented.
The "easiest" way to read it would be to have the App that defines the
format read it, in this case Outlook.
The following site provides a plethora of information on using Outlook
from .NET.
http://www.microeye.com/resources/res_outlookvsnet.htm
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in msg
files as
> they seem to be in a proprietry format.
>
> Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation > method?
>
> Thanks
>
> Graham
>
> Graham F French mcse
>
>
Outlook uses the OLE structured storage file format to write the .msg files.
To read these files you have to use the OLE api. There's a set of VB.NET
classes that wraps this API in my site:
Once you download the classes you can use this code to read the message
body:
' Open the message file
Dim msg As New Storage("test.msg")
' Get the message body stream
Dim stream As OleStorage.Stream = msg.OpenStream("__substg1.0_80050102")
Dim reader As New IO.StreamReader(stream)
' Show the message body
MsgBox(reader.ReadToEnd)
' Close the stream
reader.Close()
stream.Close()
' Close the message file
msg.Close()
The following are the streams I know:
__substg1.0_0037001E -> subject
__substg1.0_0050001E -> sender's email
__substg1.0_0650001E -> sender's email
__substg1.0_0760001E -> recipient's email
__substg1.0_07D0001E -> headers
__substg1.0_0C1F001E -> sender's email
__substg1.0_1000001E -> message body
__substg1.0_1035001E -> message id
__substg1.0_1046001E -> sender's email
__substg1.0_80050102 -> message body
--
Eduardo A. Morcillo [MS MVP VB] http://www.mvps.org/emorcillo
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:e5*************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... Hi Jay,
I don't know vb6 at all. It sounds strange, but I stared off with
vbscript! Then I moved to asp.net.
If you know VBScript, Vb6 wouldn't be a challenge, since vbscript could be
considered a subset of VB6...
I could post the vb6 code that reads the file in, as it doesn't make much
sense to me.
suspicious...
Regards
Graham
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja************@msn.com> wrote in message
news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Graham, Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I'm Sorry, which part of "not documented" do you not understand? :-|
I know that it can be done in VB6.
If you know how to do it in VB6, then you *should* know how to do it in
VB.NET.
Can you post the VB6 code you are using? The code should largely
translate into VB.NET, nothing else, create a simple VB6 project that uses the
code, then use the Upgrade Wizard in VB.NET to open the project.
Hope this helps
Jay
"Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
news:uD*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... Jay,
Sorry, I do need to know how to read this file format directly into my
application.
I know that it can be done in VB6.
Cheers
Graham
"Jay B. Harlow [MVP - Outlook]" <Ja************@msn.com> wrote in
message news:uW**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Graham,
> The .msg format is not documented.
>
> The "easiest" way to read it would be to have the App that defines
the > format read it, in this case Outlook.
>
> The following site provides a plethora of information on using
Outlook from
> .NET.
>
> http://www.microeye.com/resources/res_outlookvsnet.htm
>
> Hope this helps
> Jay
>
> "Graham F French" <gr***********@satosoft.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I can read text files into my application, but I cannot read in
msg files
> as
> > they seem to be in a proprietry format.
> >
> > Is there anyway of converting it on the fly or is there an
interpretation
> > method?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Graham
> >
> > Graham F French mcse
> >
> >
>
>
Eduardo,
Based on the numbers you are showing, it appears that each MAPI Property is
stored as a separate Stream. Interesting! http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...properties.asp __substg1.0_0037001E -> subject
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/de...pr_subject.asp
Of course the .msg format itself is not not documented by MS that I know of,
it may change use at your own risk. For example, the introduction of Unicode
and Contact items and such...
Thanks for the info!
Hope this helps
Jay
"Eduardo A. Morcillo [MS MVP VB]" <emorcillo_at_mvps.org> wrote in message
news:O0**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Outlook uses the OLE structured storage file format to write the .msg
files. To read these files you have to use the OLE api. There's a set of VB.NET
classes that wraps this API in my site:
Once you download the classes you can use this code to read the message
body:
' Open the message file
Dim msg As New Storage("test.msg")
' Get the message body stream
Dim stream As OleStorage.Stream = msg.OpenStream("__substg1.0_80050102")
Dim reader As New IO.StreamReader(stream)
' Show the message body
MsgBox(reader.ReadToEnd)
' Close the stream
reader.Close()
stream.Close()
' Close the message file
msg.Close()
The following are the streams I know:
__substg1.0_0037001E -> subject
__substg1.0_0050001E -> sender's email
__substg1.0_0650001E -> sender's email
__substg1.0_0760001E -> recipient's email
__substg1.0_07D0001E -> headers
__substg1.0_0C1F001E -> sender's email
__substg1.0_1000001E -> message body
__substg1.0_1035001E -> message id
__substg1.0_1046001E -> sender's email
__substg1.0_80050102 -> message body
--
Eduardo A. Morcillo [MS MVP VB]
http://www.mvps.org/emorcillo
> Based on the numbers you are showing, it appears that each MAPI Property is stored as a separate Stream. Interesting!
You are right, and that makes it easier.
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Eduardo A. Morcillo [MS MVP VB] http://www.mvps.org/emorcillo
MSG Files:
Priasoft has several MSG related products. http://www.priasoft.com
In particular, they have a MSG file parsing library that gives developers access to all the properties of a .msg file, without outlook.
They also have an export library that works with the MSG library for exporting msg files to other formats, like PDF, TIF, and HTML.
For PST files, they have a couple of command line tools that allow extraction of messages to MSG, again without requiring outlook, and it supports both ANSI and UNICODE pst files. There is also the reverse, a MSG to PST utility.
They also have a viewer product that looks very similar to outlook 2003 with regards to the User Interface. The viewer can view, search, print, and export msg files.
Lastly, they just release a free ViewOnly viewer here: http://www.priasoft.com/msgview.exe
Regards,
the MSG Guru, Eriq VanBibber
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