Do I use .NET or VB Forum???

Quote: Originally Posted by jg007 I am trying to start using VB Express 2005 but when I look at the .Net forums most of the posts are not relevant and the VB forum seems to have more usefull information but I have seem a couple of posts telling people to use the .net forum Also I may be missing something but why would people still be using VB6 as I am fairly new to VB it seems to make sense to me to just use the latest version when it is free anyway but I would be interested to know if I am making a mistake and there is a reason for using vb 6 ( yes I know I still havent d/l vb 2008 :) )

Hi jg007,
I am fairly new to VB programming and i am currently learning VB6 and VB2008
but i have personly found there is not enough good information & tutorials ( that i can find ) on .NET. But there are so many tutorials and examples all over the web on VB6 for example planet-source has thousands of VB6 examples but only a few .NET Thats why i have decided to focus on vb6 untill i fully understand all aspects of programming and then i will direct my focus to another language later, But this is just my opinion :)

GobbleGob.

Re: "it seems to make sense to me to just use the latest version"

Well that would make sense if .Net was the latest version of Visual Basic.
However, they are completely different programming languages.
Just because they call it a Rose doesn't make it a Rose.

Quote: Originally Posted by jg007 I am trying to start using VB Express 2005 but when I look at the .Net forums most of the posts are not relevant and the VB forum seems to have more usefull information but I have seem a couple of posts telling people to use the .net forum Also I may be missing something but why would people still be using VB6 as I am fairly new to VB it seems to make sense to me to just use the latest version when it is free anyway but I would be interested to know if I am making a mistake and there is a reason for using vb 6 ( yes I know I still havent d/l vb 2008 :) )

One thing you should note and has been discussed here before is that vb.net is not a continuation of vb6 it is a whole new language built from the bottum up which uses the .net framework, i think microsoft jus kept some of the syntax the same to make it easier for vb6 developers to move into .net.

I had the choice when learning to use vb6 or .net and i chose .net as this is clearly the future of vb, so my advise is use .net.

Quote: Originally Posted by jg007 I am trying to start using VB Express 2005 but when I look at the .Net forums most of the posts are not relevant and the VB forum seems to have more usefull information but I have seem a couple of posts telling people to use the .net forum Also I may be missing something but why would people still be using VB6 as I am fairly new to VB it seems to make sense to me to just use the latest version when it is free anyway but I would be interested to know if I am making a mistake and there is a reason for using vb 6 ( yes I know I still havent d/l vb 2008 :) )

Company I work with still uses VB6 because the applications have been built from the ground up in VB6.
The transition from VB6 to .NET is pretty costly but is in the works. However, they will still need VB6 developers to support the clients not wishing to upgrade.
Then again, upgrading is not really the right term. It's more like rewrite.

Quote: Originally Posted by VBWheaties Company I work with still uses VB6 because the applications have been built from the ground up in VB6. The transition from VB6 to .NET is pretty costly but is in the works. However, they will still need VB6 developers to support the clients not wishing to upgrade. Then again, upgrading is not really the right term. It's more like rewrite.

Thanks for the replies, I have used small amounts of VB 6, Qbasic and various other versions of basic over the years and a lot of the syntax has transfered " if x = y then ", "for n=1 to 10" etc so from my limited view point they look the same so apologies if this is not correct

As for which forum to use here, it's pretty much up to you to pick the one where you feel you're more likely to get a response. We deal with all versions of VB in the Visual Basic forum, but if something is more about the guts of the .Net framework than VB for instance, we might advise you to try the other forum.

I don't think there's any hard and fast rule.

I agree with the posters who say vb.net is all new. There is a lot of syntactical similarity between VB6 and VB.net, but for an all VB programmer the transition from VB6 to VB.NET can be daunting - especially if your skills with VB6 are marginal (as mine are).
Now that I have done a fair amount of VB.NET I actually prefer it, if only because it is the future. Keeping VB6 code up to date and doing new applications in VB6 that look "modern" will become increasingly difficult - more difficult than .net.

But more to your question: VB.NET is indeed .NET, and as you learn more and more about it you will find many of your questions answered in the .NET forum regardless of the language used. Remember VB.NET and C# all compile to the same CLR code, the IDE is simply a syntax conversion engine. C# is closest to the .NET design I would say - but I do not use it myself. I have spent a little time in C# code and would suggest that does help sometimes.
As for VB.net in the forum - I would suggest that the .net forums allow for filtering languages in much the same way the MSDN help files currently do. Splitting it off into different forums I think does a disservice to the .NET concept, but there are folks who are looking for specific things to VB.net.

Something like

Dotnet Forum
(Filter By)
O All Languages
O VB
O C#
O C++

Allow people to update language sections of any post. That would be cool!

As more and more developers switch to VB.NET we are finding the on-line availability of quality VB.NET examples from smart people increases. Google is a wonderful thing. DON"T JUST CUT AND PASTE - understand the code and you too will soon be somebody's code hero!

Honestly - VB6 is now really starting to feel a bit crufty to me.

Des

Quote: Originally Posted by !NoItAll I agree with the posters who say vb.net is all new. There is a lot of syntactical similarity between VB6 and VB.net, but for an all VB programmer the transition from VB6 to VB.NET can be daunting - especially if your skills with VB6 are marginal (as mine are). Now that I have done a fair amount of VB.NET I actually prefer it, if only because it is the future. Keeping VB6 code up to date and doing new applications in VB6 that look "modern" will become increasingly difficult - more difficult than .net. But more to your question: VB.NET is indeed .NET, and as you learn more and more about it you will find many of your questions answered in the .NET forum regardless of the language used. Remember VB.NET and C# all compile to the same CLR code, the IDE is simply a syntax conversion engine. C# is closest to the .NET design I would say - but I do not use it myself. I have spent a little time in C# code and would suggest that does help sometimes. As for VB.net in the forum - I would suggest that the .net forums allow for filtering languages in much the same way the MSDN help files currently do. Splitting it off into different forums I think does a disservice to the .NET concept, but there are folks who are looking for specific things to VB.net. Something like Dotnet Forum (Filter By) O All Languages O VB O C# O C++ Allow people to update language sections of any post. That would be cool! As more and more developers switch to VB.NET we are finding the on-line availability of quality VB.NET examples from smart people increases. Google is a wonderful thing. DON"T JUST CUT AND PASTE - understand the code and you too will soon be somebody's code hero! Honestly - VB6 is now really starting to feel a bit crufty to me. Des

I agree .

Rey Sean

Quote: Originally Posted by !NoItAll As for VB.net in the forum - I would suggest that the .net forums allow for filtering languages in much the same way the MSDN help files currently do. Splitting it off into different forums I think does a disservice to the .NET concept, but there are folks who are looking for specific things to VB.net. Something like Dotnet Forum (Filter By) O All Languages O VB O C# O C++ Allow people to update language sections of any post. That would be cool!

I think this is a great idea, it would certainly help to find the answers your lookin for more qickly